The Anarcho-Capitalist Movement

[Capitalist 35]

13 hours ago, K9_GAMING said:

the main reason of people not shooting people would become fear. and also if everyone owned a gun then at any point you could be shot in the back of the head. Furthermore it would be harder to identify who's trying/planning to commit a crime as since everyone is allowed guns there's no sign that they're going to kill someone. finally if you say that if someone were to commit a crime then what do the police do and how do you decide who's doing the policing and who's doing the crime.

Non Aggression Principle, break this one and you´ll get shot. That´s the only rule you have to follow in a anarcho-capitalist society. Everything else is done through ostracism and contract agreements etc.

[Capitalist 35]

13 hours ago, K9_GAMING said:

so as far as i understand it, you the anarcho capitalist movement, want to buy crush the government so that you can legalize drugs and guns then make there no taxes for a peaceful utopia. i fail to see how this could be sustainable.(french revolution comes to mind)

Make an argument then. Because frankly this is not an argument.

[Capitalist 35]

18 hours ago, Tomato said:

 

As the Public representative of the Liberal Progressive Union I am worried about your inclusion of a military threat in your political party

this act of creating an armed wing of your party has presented a threat to democracy and it should not be that way

I would inquire where your party is likely to be based

I am also questioning you beliefs and political message as if you were to get into power this would create total chaos which would threaten the lives of the very citizens you are supposed to be operating in their favour.

this is not a political party but an anti-social threat to the stability most governments enjoy

 

PS.

your inclusion of a military aspect is a dangerous comparison between you and the NSDAP and their S.A

I couldn't care less what your progressive party thinks on how we should handle our business, though I understand your concern since you're a statist afterall. We don't believe in democracy since the majority rules the minority, we want a society without rulers and governments so democracy will not be part of our society, it'll be total freedom for all. Anarchism.

"I would inquire where your party is likely to be based".... Not an argument.

"I am also questioning you beliefs and political message as if you were to get into power this would create total chaos which would threaten the lives of the very citizens you are supposed to be operating in their favour."...What is this power you speak of?  To bear arms? To not have a government that tells me what to do? Yeah that's what I'm fighting for, I fight for freedom and the peoples liberation from statists like yourself.

"this is not a political party but an anti-social threat to the stability most governments enjoy"... Correct! and we are proud of that. Statist like yourself who want the government power and its monopoly on force to initiate violence so that you can regulate the people and tax their hard earned money, you'll be the first who we'll point our fingers at and if you try to shut us down using force, we will kill you and all your party members in self-defense. We are rebels and we'll make sure that the whole world knows that when tyranny tries to rule the people, that we'll arm the whole society with firearms so that they can protect themselves from tyranny and with voluntary premission join our glory to crush the state power, we don't serve the state, it is you that serve the people and our job is to make sure of that.

"your inclusion of a military aspect is a dangerous comparison between you and the NSDAP and their S.A"... Comparing us to statists is not very accurate. My army is a freemarket invention and has no monopoly on force. Stop with the non-sense.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Capitalist

[Capitalist 35]

10 hours ago, Shadow765 said:

I exercise and have a good diet so I could still get it but the chances are lowered 

Good.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Capitalist

[K9_GAMING 6]

16 hours ago, Capitalist said:

Make an argument then. Because frankly this is not an argument

Ok, let me explain the french revolution for you:

in the french revolution a large group of people decided that Louis XVI was a bad king using taxpayer money for personal affairs putting the country in bankruptcy, in short what once a peaceful intellectual plea for reason became a large mass of murdering riots and invasions from foreign countries, its original leader got beheaded and then was then replaced by napoleon who declared himself emporer.

In summary:

-its not sustainable (people will get bored of being killed every time they spawn and either a strong divide in players will emerge and the server will die or people will stop supporting you)

the rest is unimportant so don't quote me because it is an example

p.s. writing in colors is fun isn't it

[Capitalist 35]

5 minutes ago, K9_GAMING said:

Ok, let me explain the french revolution for you:

in the french revolution a large group of people decided that Louis XVI was a bad king using taxpayer money for personal affairs putting the country in bankruptcy, in short what once a peaceful intellectual plea for reason became a large mass of murdering riots and invasions from foreign countries, its original leader got beheaded and then was then replaced by napoleon who declared himself emporer.

In summary:

-its not sustainable (people will get bored of being killed every time they spawn and either a strong divide in players will emerge and the server will die or people will stop supporting you)

the rest is unimportant so don't quote me because it is an example

p.s. writing in colors is fun isn't it

Thanks for the history lesson, too bad it has nothing to do with anarcho-capitalism.

[K9_GAMING 6]

6 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

Thanks for the history lesson, too bad it has nothing to do with anarcho-capitalism.

Apparently summarizing it isn't easy enough for you to understand. let me spell it out:

IT WON'T LAST

P.s. do you see that bit saying 'in summary' that's the bit which is relevant

Edited December 9, 2016 by K9_GAMING
extra point to add

[Capitalist 35]

4 minutes ago, K9_GAMING said:

Apparently summarizing it isn't easy enough for you to understand. let me spell it out:

IT WON'T LAST

Not an argument

[Pineapple 19]

15 hours ago, Capitalist said:

I couldn't care less what your progressive party thinks on how we should handle our business, though I understand your concern since you're a statist afterall. We don't believe in democracy since the majority rules the minority, we want a society without rulers and governments so democracy will not be part of our society, it'll be total freedom for all. Anarchism.

"I would inquire where your party is likely to be based".... Not an argument.

"I am also questioning you beliefs and political message as if you were to get into power this would create total chaos which would threaten the lives of the very citizens you are supposed to be operating in their favour."...What is this power you speak of?  To bear arms? To not have a government that tells me what to do? Yeah that's what I'm fighting for, I fight for freedom and the peoples liberation from statists like yourself.

"this is not a political party but an anti-social threat to the stability most governments enjoy"... Correct! and we are proud of that. Statist like yourself who want the government power and its monopoly on force to initiate violence so that you can regulate the people and tax their hard earned money, you'll be the first who we'll point our fingers at and if you try to shut us down using force, we will kill you and all your party members in self-defense. We are rebels and we'll make sure that the whole world knows that when tyranny tries to rule the people, that we'll arm the whole society with firearms so that they can protect themselves from tyranny and with voluntary premission join our glory to crush the state power, we don't serve the state, it is you that serve the people and our job is to make sure of that.

"your inclusion of a military aspect is a dangerous comparison between you and the NSDAP and their S.A"... Comparing us to statists is not very accurate. My army is a freemarket invention and has no monopoly on force. Stop with the non-sense.

Hello there Mr Capitalist,

I am Co-founder of the LPU, and as I know you don't care, I will move swiftly on.

I appreciate your speedy response to my co-worker here and I am one to respect all peoples beliefs, but obviously that doesn't  mean I believe many. 

Unfortunatly, can we see any country in the world that does not have a head of the country? Off the top of my head I can't say I can. There must be a good reason for this, perhaps it is that a country doesn't work without one! Of course I am not stating that these people in power should control the world like big brother but as a close friend to all people. So simple saying that you want to irradiate all form of government can't be to imaginable for most people to look upon. Think of what the government offers, and take your country as an example. Think of all the good things they do to keep your country a better and safer place. A country without a government means no police, no healthcare and no fire stations. Does this really seem like a place were you feel safe? Everyone around you for all you know is holding an automatic rifle! Does that not bother you of your safety? If the people of the world thought that the world would be a better place without one, would the people not have risen up, and destroyed all of what the government stands for?

Hope to hear from you soon!

-Pine

 

[K9_GAMING 6]

4 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

Not an argument

How so?

If it doesn't last its not a good system.

[Capitalist 35]

6 minutes ago, K9_GAMING said:

How so?

If it doesn't last its not a good system.

"If it doesn't last its not a good system." ...Not an argument, mere opinion.

"IT WON'T LAST"...Is not an argument, another opinion backed by zero facts.

[K9_GAMING 6]

4 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

"If it doesn't last its not a good system." ...Not an argument, mere opinion.

"IT WON'T LAST"...Is not an argument, another opinion backed by zero facts

when has anarchy ever been a good system? lots of the time opinion is what matters as there cant be a factual side to everything, however if you want a short lived government that would being one of the part of the game people would rather forget then go ahead as at this point i doubt sinserely that people would vote for you.

p.s.before you say it, yes this is an opinion and yes it is an argument. this is a waste of my time but hats of for doing it so well. im not going to respond.

[K9_GAMING 6]

17 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

Hello there Mr Capitalist,

I am Co-founder of the LPU, and as I know you don't care, I will move swiftly on.

I appreciate your speedy response to my co-worker here and I am one to respect all peoples beliefs, but obviously that doesn't  mean I believe many. 

Unfortunatly, can we see any country in the world that does not have a head of the country? Off the top of my head I can't say I can. There must be a good reason for this, perhaps it is that a country doesn't work without one! Of course I am not stating that these people in power should control the world like big brother but as a close friend to all people. So simple saying that you want to irradiate all form of government can't be to imaginable for most people to look upon. Think of what the government offers, and take your country as an example. Think of all the good things they do to keep your country a better and safer place. A country without a government means no police, no healthcare and no fire stations. Does this really seem like a place were you feel safe? Everyone around you for all you know is holding an automatic rifle! Does that not bother you of your safety? If the people of the world thought that the world would be a better place without one, would the people not have risen up, and destroyed all of what the government stands for?

Hope to hear from you soon!

-Pine

 

10/10 would be employed by again

[Pineapple 19]

7 minutes ago, K9_GAMING said:

10/10 would be employed by again

What you mean ?

[K9_GAMING 6]

4 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

What you mean ?

i work for the LPU and you made a thought out intellectual response which he hasn't decided to declare 'not an argument'

[Pineapple 19]

6 minutes ago, K9_GAMING said:

i work for the LPU and you made a thought out intellectual response which he hasn't decided to declare 'not an argument'

And yet he answered you who said something after me  haha

[Shadow765 149]

Just now, Pineapple said:

And yet he answered you who said something after me  haha

Question about the loan thing, what happens if somone cant afford to pay the loan? 

[Pineapple 19]

4 minutes ago, Shadow765 said:

Question about the loan thing, what happens if somone cant afford to pay the loan? 

Then we shall take a look at there financial situation and come to a conclusion, also if you have any questions, head over to our page to ask! Or private msg me!

[Pineapple 19]

17 hours ago, Capitalist said:

Non Aggression Principle, break this one and you´ll get shot. That´s the only rule you have to follow in a anarcho-capitalist society. Everything else is done through ostracism and contract agreements etc.

So only 1 person will be alive at the end?

[Capitalist 35]

1 hour ago, Pineapple said:

Hello there Mr Capitalist,

I am Co-founder of the LPU, and as I know you don't care, I will move swiftly on.

I appreciate your speedy response to my co-worker here and I am one to respect all peoples beliefs, but obviously that doesn't  mean I believe many. 

Unfortunatly, can we see any country in the world that does not have a head of the country? Off the top of my head I can't say I can. There must be a good reason for this, perhaps it is that a country doesn't work without one! Of course I am not stating that these people in power should control the world like big brother but as a close friend to all people. So simple saying that you want to irradiate all form of government can't be to imaginable for most people to look upon. Think of what the government offers, and take your country as an example. Think of all the good things they do to keep your country a better and safer place. A country without a government means no police, no healthcare and no fire stations. Does this really seem like a place were you feel safe? Everyone around you for all you know is holding an automatic rifle! Does that not bother you of your safety? If the people of the world thought that the world would be a better place without one, would the people not have risen up, and destroyed all of what the government stands for?

Hope to hear from you soon!

-Pine

 

There has been examples of societes that were very close to the Anarcho-Capitalist philosophy, for example The Commonwealth of Iceland has been argued to have been an anarcho-capitalist society. Libertarian and Minarchist countries are not far from being Anarcho-Capitalist, if there is a government then I would pefer a minarchist government, since it's just a step from being anarchist and probably won't be hard to switch into anarchism.

"Of course I am not stating that these people in power should control the world like big brother but as a close friend to all people." You never know when it comes to government, those who love power will flock to be part of the government and people that love power has been statistically evil. It is not an accident that people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot, Mussolini and many other evil people clinged to government power to force their will on the people, government is the most dangerous concept we face as humans today. If there is a government, war and tyranny is inevitable in the long run. During the birth of USA it was a libertarian republic and now has one of the biggest governments in the world, tell me how many people have died due to American Imperialism the past 50 years or so?

"So simple saying that you want to irradiate all form of government can't be to imaginable for most people to look upon."...That is understandable, back in 1200s it was hard to imagine that the earth was round for most people. Just because it can't be imagined does not mean it can't work.

"Think of what the government offers, and take your country as an example. Think of all the good things they do to keep your country a better and safer place. A country without a government means no police, no healthcare and no fire stations."...That's false, everything the government can do, the freemarket can do and even better than the government because of Capitalism. You can compare freemarket countries to socialist public sector countries.

"Everyone around you for all you know is holding an automatic rifle! Does that not bother you of your safety? If the people of the world thought that the world would be a better place without one, would the people not have risen up, and destroyed all of what the government stands for?"...Bother me personally? Not at all and who cares if I do? Look at the Bataclan Paris attacks back in 2015, if everybody carried AR Rifles at that rockshow, the terrorists who ambushed that show would've not stand a chance, but since France is a gun-free country, that attack resulted in 90 innocent deaths. More guns means less crime, more guns means more protection. Only bad guys want innocent people to be unarmed. Another reason why government is evil and helps bad people, also an armed people keep tyranny in check.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2016 by Capitalist

[Capitalist 35]

23 minutes ago, Pineapple said:

So only 1 person will be alive at the end?

Go on, why would there only be one person alive in the end due to NAP?

[Capitalist 35]

1 hour ago, K9_GAMING said:

when has anarchy ever been a good system? lots of the time opinion is what matters as there cant be a factual side to everything, however if you want a short lived government that would being one of the part of the game people would rather forget then go ahead as at this point i doubt sinserely that people would vote for you.

p.s.before you say it, yes this is an opinion and yes it is an argument. this is a waste of my time but hats of for doing it so well. im not going to respond.

You're still not making an argument. Opinions are not arguments.

For example, me liking the colour yellow, does not make the colour yellow a bad thing objectively (nor a good thing for that matter) etc. So just because you don't like yellow and state that yellow is a bad colour, does not mean universally that the colour yellow is bad or good. So when you say that the colour yellow is bad it is a statement based on your subjective opinion, therefor not an argument. That´s exacly what you're doing with anarchism in this case.

Look If you don't like anarchism, fine. But be honest about it, but saying it won't work without any facts or statistics or objective empiricism is not an argument. You haven't said a single thing that dissaproves that anarchism does not work or won't last other than subjective non-arguments.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Capitalist

[Capitalist 35]

55 minutes ago, Shadow765 said:

Question about the loan thing, what happens if somone cant afford to pay the loan? 

That's something the individual banks have to deal with through contracts. They are responsible who they loan their money to.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Capitalist

[Shadow765 149]

13 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

That's something the individual banks have to deal with through contracts. They are responsible who they loan their money to.

Wouldn't the government need to approve though?

[Capitalist 35]

14 minutes ago, Shadow765 said:

Wouldn't the government need to approve though?

No. Banks can handle themselves without a nanny state telling them what to do, just like any other business. Laissez Faire is our goal.

Edited December 10, 2016 by Capitalist