Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, NskDen said: To complete the art tasks, they need a maximum 1 week. PROGRAMMING tasks can long a month, in dependence on complexity. Who are you to give an estimate on how long it should take them? Do you have all of the inside information as to exactly what's going on? This may not even be something that they can control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kraiyick said: Who are you to give an estimate on how long it should take them? Do you have all of the inside information as to exactly what's going on? This may not even be something that they can control. I'm just IT specialist. Edited April 21, 2018 by NskDen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, NskDen said: I'am just IT specialist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority Nice argument point on that one there pal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kraiyick said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority Nice argument point on that one there pal. It is not argument, it is my job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NskDen said: It is not argument, it is my job I don't think you're understanding my point here, bud. The 'argument from authority' means that just because you have a job in a particular field or a degree does not mean you know what you're talking about. I have a CompTIA A+ certification which is more basic IT bench technician however I know the rungs that you can climb to within an IT field. I'd expect a more convincing argument from someone who's been in a similar position as the lead developers of Identity (project lead or oversight for video-game development) or within the field of Comp-Sci, not from someone who's an Information Technology Specialist if the argument from authority was even rendered null and everything you said could be taken with merit based on your background. Edited April 21, 2018 by Kraiyick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 Can anyone tell me how to do a refund? Dont get me wrong, i wont say anything negative about the game itself, but those devs are a laugh. One delay after another, they have delayed this game for years now. So no, i would like to receive my money back, and wait till the game has been released, to see what the reviews be like. i really wanted to back you guys up, as this game could be a game changer. But this has gone to far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, KimboCake said: Can anyone tell me how to do a refund? Dont get me wrong, i wont say anything negative about the game itself, but those devs are a laugh. One delay after another, they have delayed this game for years now. So no, i would like to receive my money back, and wait till the game has been released, to see what the reviews be like. i really wanted to back you guys up, as this game could be a game changer. But this has gone to far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, BlazinBender said: Maybe its about time for a refund... How do you refund 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 Few months now it's delayed again and again.... i really would like to know what's the real reason to do that again and again, and don't tell me "bugs blabla.... " it's a beta and then anyway there will be bugs. Never seen a game in beta without bugs, never... it's not a good reason. So why just don't let us see what is the level of the actual version. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 Relase should be at weekend, saturday or sunday, so most of us will have a chance to play on 1st day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Techtu said: Few months now it's delayed again and again.... i really would like to know what's the real reason to do that again and again, and don't tell me "bugs blabla.... " it's a beta and then anyway there will be bugs. Never seen a game in beta without bugs, never... it's not a good reason. So why just don't let us see what is the level of the actual version. I agree. An unfinished version is better than nothing at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) The fact that they have consistently provided factual DATES, not to mention not "approximates" but ACTUAL DOWN TO EXACT DATES of release and then pushes it back makes me FURIOUS. If you're gonna be inefficient in your work just state it instead of making up lies and providing fake dates. I had backed this game before the release of the town square in hopes that they actually complete their job but sadly I was in false hope, once again like everyone else. I just feel bad for the people who spent a lot of money on this waste of time. Also, I would like to know how to refund cause not even 30$ is worth this joke of a company. What a disappointment. Edited April 21, 2018 by Shaknown95 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Techtu said: Few months now it's delayed again and again.... i really would like to know what's the real reason to do that again and again, and don't tell me "bugs blabla.... " it's a beta and then anyway there will be bugs. Never seen a game in beta without bugs, never... it's not a good reason. So why just don't let us see what is the level of the actual version. I don't think you understand how they might be thinking. I remember when I had to design a new system for a game I've had, I did it as fast as I could and tested it after changing every line of existing code I've had, I tested it almost all night long and have had a few times I was working 14 hours non-stop. But then.. from bugs experiences (due to so many tests), I came up with an even better idea, sometimes for an entire system replacement! A few tweaks here and there, a few modifications here and there, keep testing it all non-stop... and boom, 3 days of work are paying off. Obviously, talking about a small-scaled systems, I cannot even imagine how it's like with Identity, but I do try to imagine it and I understand. While, yes, I do know that it's another delay and they did not mention the reason, you do need to understand they base this game from 0, everything they create is their own, including animation and 3d/2d art, which is a lot of time even for the expert ones. So yeah, if there are a few bugs I wouldn't be surprised they are working on fixing it, but I would not be surprised if they planned one thing and ended up with another thing entirely, that's the beauty of development, code writing and testing your product to attempt and avoid all sort of possible bugs. 5 minutes ago, Bryan_Mills said: I agree. An unfinished version is better than nothing at all. Please don't get me started here... PLEASE. This line is SO WRONG in so many ways... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 At this point, I'm quite honestly not even surprised. It's sad to see it happen, but oh well.. Nothing we can do about, Let's just hope that things will be released ASAP. I've waited sooo long for Identity to be released, I don't want to wait much longer. But you guys do what you do, and I'll catch y'all in-game whenever that is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Dandi said: Please don't get me started here... PLEASE. This line is SO WRONG in so many ways... I would prefer getting a taste of what's coming instead of waiting. Even if it is unfinished. It is not the final release and full game, which makes it completely fine that there are bugs. If the bugs are so problematic so the game cannot be released that is understandable. Because of the many delays they make me feel like a refund is the best option right now. Edited April 21, 2018 by Bryan_Mills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) I completely agree with you Bryan, and as you said Dandi, you cannot even imagine how it's like with identity, the point is we're waiting for few years now and some of us invested lot of hope and btw also money in it to see something one day(or not..), we know they started from nothing, but at this point i think we deserve more and more explanations about all this. I'm not blaming anyone but we just wanna know... Edited April 21, 2018 by Techtu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, Dandi said: Please don't get me started here... PLEASE. This line is SO WRONG in so many ways... The module is simultaneously an alpha and a very small (incomplete) portion of the actual game. What people are getting at is there's all this talk about polishing and making it 100%, but it's well understood to be a very early look into the game, something that's supposed to ensure us that they're actually doing something. It is well understood that the game will still be in development and subject to massive changes. It's naive to think that they're going to achieve something that's 100% by any reasonable stretch of the imagination, especially for a module. The problem is we still haven't seen anything that suggests they've actually got a game. April 23rd was a moment of truth, and it's been a pretty damning blow -- I cannot depend on anything these people say. It's so unfortunate that what could have been an exciting weekend for the community has turned out to be another disappointment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 Look people just need to chill, I've seen a few people go off the rail at the devs which is unnecessary. Like I said before sure get it off your chest like I did but take a chill pill and relax, everyone's annoyed that it's been delayed but common sense prevails and common sense says that the devs will release it when it's ready hence why they've removed a release date altogether and have put the dev tracker on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Techtu said: Few months now it's delayed again and again.... i really would like to know what's the real reason to do that again and again, and don't tell me "bugs blabla.... " it's a beta and then anyway there will be bugs. Never seen a game in beta without bugs, never... it's not a good reason. So why just don't let us see what is the level of the actual version. 10 hours ago, Mikusiodaktyl said: Relase should be at weekend, saturday or sunday, so most of us will have a chance to play on 1st day. 9 hours ago, Bryan_Mills said: I agree. An unfinished version is better than nothing at all. 9 hours ago, Shaknown95 said: The fact that they have consistently provided factual DATES, not to mention not "approximates" but ACTUAL DOWN TO EXACT DATES of release and then pushes it back makes me FURIOUS. If you're gonna be inefficient in your work just state it instead of making up lies and providing fake dates. I had backed this game before the release of the town square in hopes that they actually complete their job but sadly I was in false hope, once again like everyone else. I just feel bad for the people who spent a lot of money on this waste of time. Also, I would like to know how to refund cause not even 30$ is worth this joke of a company. What a disappointment. 9 hours ago, Alphoni said: At this point, I'm quite honestly not even surprised. It's sad to see it happen, but oh well.. Nothing we can do about, Let's just hope that things will be released ASAP. I've waited sooo long for Identity to be released, I don't want to wait much longer. But you guys do what you do, and I'll catch y'all in-game whenever that is! 9 hours ago, Bryan_Mills said: I would prefer getting a taste of what's coming instead of waiting. Even if it is unfinished. It is not the final release and full game, which makes it completely fine that there are bugs. If the bugs are so problematic so the game cannot be released that is understandable. Because of the many delays they make me feel like a refund is the best option right now. 9 hours ago, Techtu said: I completely agree with you Bryan, and as you said Dandi, you cannot even imagine how it's like with identity, the point is we're waiting for few years now and some of us invested lot of hope and btw also money in it to see something one day(or not..), we know they started from nothing, but at this point i think we deserve more and more explanations about all this. I'm not blaming anyone but we just wanna know... 8 hours ago, lamona said: The module is simultaneously an alpha and a very small (incomplete) portion of the actual game. What people are getting at is there's all this talk about polishing and making it 100%, but it's well understood to be a very early look into the game, something that's supposed to ensure us that they're actually doing something. It is well understood that the game will still be in development and subject to massive changes. It's naive to think that they're going to achieve something that's 100% by any reasonable stretch of the imagination, especially for a module. The problem is we still haven't seen anything that suggests they've actually got a game. April 23rd was a moment of truth, and it's been a pretty damning blow -- I cannot depend on anything these people say. It's so unfortunate that what could have been an exciting weekend for the community has turned out to be another disappointment. 11 hours ago, Bryan_Mills said: How do you refund 11 hours ago, NskDen said: 11 hours ago, KimboCake said: Can anyone tell me how to do a refund? Dont get me wrong, i wont say anything negative about the game itself, but those devs are a laugh. One delay after another, they have delayed this game for years now. So no, i would like to receive my money back, and wait till the game has been released, to see what the reviews be like. i really wanted to back you guys up, as this game could be a game changer. But this has gone to far. 14 hours ago, Kraiyick said: I find it funny how people get so aggravated over a delay. It happens, bitching like a bunch of pussies isn't going to help anything. I've been following the game's development with a friend of mine since before this website was even up, the only thing you can do to not go stir crazy waiting for the game is to merely check in every month or so, check any updates, and if the game isn't out, go on with your fucking life for another month, and check in again. Don't bother responding to me about how the Asylum team has lost your trust because I couldn't care less and I'm sure there are plenty of others who don't want to hear your gripes either, even some who've been following the game since day one. They're working with a million dollar budget, I'd rather them take another two years to make a fantastic game rather than release an unfinished product that I've spent sixty dollars on. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Dandi said: I don't think you understand how they might be thinking. I remember when I had to design a new system for a game I've had, I did it as fast as I could and tested it after changing every line of existing code I've had, I tested it almost all night long and have had a few times I was working 14 hours non-stop. But then.. from bugs experiences (due to so many tests), I came up with an even better idea, sometimes for an entire system replacement! A few tweaks here and there, a few modifications here and there, keep testing it all non-stop... and boom, 3 days of work are paying off. Obviously, talking about a small-scaled systems, I cannot even imagine how it's like with Identity, but I do try to imagine it and I understand. While, yes, I do know that it's another delay and they did not mention the reason, you do need to understand they base this game from 0, everything they create is their own, including animation and 3d/2d art, which is a lot of time even for the expert ones. So yeah, if there are a few bugs I wouldn't be surprised they are working on fixing it, but I would not be surprised if they planned one thing and ended up with another thing entirely, that's the beauty of development, code writing and testing your product to attempt and avoid all sort of possible bugs. Please don't get me started here... PLEASE. This line is SO WRONG in so many ways... This 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 13 hours ago, NskDen said: 13 hours ago, KimboCake said: Can anyone tell me how to do a refund? Dont get me wrong, i wont say anything negative about the game itself, but those devs are a laugh. One delay after another, they have delayed this game for years now. So no, i would like to receive my money back, and wait till the game has been released, to see what the reviews be like. i really wanted to back you guys up, as this game could be a game changer. But this has gone to far. Another way to get a refund is ask in account support and you will be requested to contact beach ball if you are out of the 180 days window. Proof of that in this thread with last replay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 4:37 PM, melvin1112 said: I find it very disappointing that this has to happen for the second time. I'm glad you keep us informed. I'm starting to bump I'm waiting for 2 games this and house flipper all 2 they are slowing again this month. I am particularly sorry because at the Development Stream this week it was said that we could play next week and that you would like to play with us next week (even yesterday) I can not come to my boss from yes no sorry the work is not finished yet when I say to him for a month already, then it is finished. but let's hope for the best btw sorry for my bad english its the 5th delay not the second Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marine said: its the 5th delay not the second Technically he's right, while it's the fifth delay it's only the second time it's been delayed while given an official release date 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 22, 2018 Is this some kind of joke? Your marketing approach has some serious issues. In fact, we need to start submitting requests for refund so that they learn a lesson and understand the consequences of repetitive misrepresentation of information to their consumers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted April 22, 2018 I've invested my money so long ago in the project that now I do not care about these money 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
