Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) JUST NOW BREAKINGMAURICE CLINTON HAS DROPPED FROM THE RACE Maurice Clinton of the RADICAL DEMOCRATIC LEFT PARTY (RDLP) has dropped from the race. It now appears that for people who hope to have a strong communistic party in charge of the Island will have to look towards Damien Malik of the PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY PARTY (PRP) for that hope to continue. Edited November 10, 2017 by Identity_Party_Data Maurice Clinton has not been banned from the forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) What did they do to be banned?! Edited November 10, 2017 by The1TheOnlyGonzo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 It is extremely unfortunate that one of the party's most noble allies had lost the opportunity to continue with the electoral race against the Right-wing capitalist and fascist political parties of Identity Island. It shall be my pleasure to announce that Damien Malik of The People's Revolutionary Party shall continue to support the working-class citizens of Identity Island against the threat of capitalism and fascism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Identity_Party_Data said: JUST NOW BREAKINGMAURICE CLINTON HAS DROPPED FROM THE RACE Maurice Clinton of the RADICAL DEMOCRATIC LEFT PARTY (RDLP) has been banned from the forums, meaning she has been dropped from the race. It now appears that for people who hope to have a strong communistic party in charge of the Island will have to look towards Damien Malik of the PEOPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY PARTY (PRP) for that hope to continue. Maurice Clinton dropped from the race on the same day the polls are closing. Indeed, very interesting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 Another communist gone, thank goodness! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 UPDATE: Maurice Clinton has not been banned from the Forums, she only dropped but was informed from Maurice herself that she was banned. Fixed post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 10, 2017 That's not the truth. I said you, that I'm banned for 1 month on the forums, because I did radical politics. I'm absolutly not said that I'm dropping out of race. That will NEVER happened. Greetings Maurice Clinton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 11, 2017 I think you have it backwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 On 11/10/2017 at 4:41 PM, DLimit said: It shall be my pleasure to announce that Damien Malik of The People's Revolutionary Party shall continue to support the working-class citizens of Identity Island against the threat of capitalism and fascism. I'm sure your ingame views are purley RP, but the working-class are the ones who suffer and starve to death with communism too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 A communist island lol. But I suppose anything is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, GreyFox said: I'm sure your ingame views are purley RP, but the working-class are the ones who suffer and starve to death with communism too. One possesses zero evidence to support such a claim considering that "Communism" has NEVER existed within the planet Earth. Another individual that produces mediocre claims without any in-depth understanding of the theory... misinterpreting "State-Capitalism" with "Communism". P.S. I am a Communist majoring in the political sciences within the real world with the intent of functioning as a professor and lawyer. Has one analyzed the Communist Manifesto prior to claiming that any of these half-Socialist nation-states were Communist? They were hardly Socialist from the beginning of their revolutions. Edited February 2, 2018 by DLimit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, DLimit said: One possesses zero evidence to support such a claim considering that "Communism" has NEVER existed within the planet Earth. Another individual that produces mediocre claims without any in-depth understanding of the theory... misinterpreting "State-Capitalism" with "Communism". P.S. I am a Communist majoring in the political sciences within the real world with the intent of functioning as a professor and lawyer. Has one analyzed the Communist Manifesto prior to claiming that any of these half-Socialist nation-states were Communist? They were hardly Socialist from the beginning of their revolutions. Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century. Estimates of the death toll vary widely, depending on the methodology used. Scholarship focuses on the causes of mass killings in single societies, though some claims of common causes for mass killings have been made. Some higher estimates of mass killings include not only mass murders or executions that took place during the elimination of political opponents, civil wars, terror campaigns, and land reforms, but also lives lost due to war, famine, disease, and exhaustion in labor camps. There are scholars who believe that government policies and mistakes in management contributed to these calamities, and, based on that conclusion combine all these deaths under the categories "mass killings", democide, politicide, "classicide", or loosely defined genocide. According to these scholars, the total death toll of the mass killings defined in this way amounts to many tens of millions; however, the validity of this approach is questioned by other scholars. In his summary of the estimates in the Black Book of Communism, Martin Malia suggested a death toll of between 85 and 100 million people.[1] As of 2011, academic consensus has not been achieved on causes of large scale killings by states, including by states governed by communists. In particular, the number of comparative studies suggesting causes is limited. The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[2][dubious – discuss] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, You don't need a majors degree to look that up on wikipedia. Also "Protect the working-class from capitalism"?? Nowhere near as many people die as a result of capitalism rather than communism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, DLimit said: "Communism" has NEVER existed within the planet Earth. Your profile picture is the communist symbol, what do you mean it has never existed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GreyFox said: Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century. Estimates of the death toll vary widely, depending on the methodology used. Scholarship focuses on the causes of mass killings in single societies, though some claims of common causes for mass killings have been made. Some higher estimates of mass killings include not only mass murders or executions that took place during the elimination of political opponents, civil wars, terror campaigns, and land reforms, but also lives lost due to war, famine, disease, and exhaustion in labor camps. There are scholars who believe that government policies and mistakes in management contributed to these calamities, and, based on that conclusion combine all these deaths under the categories "mass killings", democide, politicide, "classicide", or loosely defined genocide. According to these scholars, the total death toll of the mass killings defined in this way amounts to many tens of millions; however, the validity of this approach is questioned by other scholars. In his summary of the estimates in the Black Book of Communism, Martin Malia suggested a death toll of between 85 and 100 million people.[1] As of 2011, academic consensus has not been achieved on causes of large scale killings by states, including by states governed by communists. In particular, the number of comparative studies suggesting causes is limited. The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[2][dubious – discuss] There have also been killings on a smaller scale in North Korea, Vietnam, You don't need a majors degree to look that up on wikipedia. Also "Protect the working-class from capitalism"?? Nowhere near as many people die as a result of capitalism rather than communism. Communism is defined as a stateless and classless system of overproduction that causes the proletariat to be self-reliant without any guidance from a state, excluding administrative organizations that organize resources and wealth. Any scholar would be aware that Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Capitalism kills more human beings within five years than the entire combined history of Socialist-governed nation-states, if one is willing to examine developing nation-states that are victims of famine, poverty, income-inequality etc... under capitalist imperialism. Edited February 2, 2018 by DLimit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GreyFox said: Your profile picture is the communist symbol, what do you mean it has never existed? Communism is the stage that exists directly after Socialism. The majority, if not all, of the nation-states within the planet Earth that had pro-claimed to be "Communist" or "Socialist" were capitalist nation-states undergoing the transition from Capitalism to Socialism. You're honestly believing that the production of a symbol that represented Socialism and Communism suggests that the actual stage of Communism has existed within the planet Earth? Edited February 2, 2018 by DLimit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, DLimit said: Communism is the stage that exists directly after Socialism. The majority, if not all, of the nation-states within the planet Earth that had pro-claimed to be "Communist" or "Socialist" were capitalist nation-states undergoing the transition from Capitalism to Socialism. You're honestly believing that the production of a symbol that represented Socialism and Communism suggests that the actual stage of Communism has existed within the planet Earth? Alright, I'm not in the mood of an argument and your clearly very educated on the topic unlike most of your fellow left-wingers. You are clearly preaching a different type of communism than the one everyone knows as communism. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) I mean, you're comparing one Wikipedia page which cites sources from unreliable scholars that has been debunked and ridiculed for producing inaccurate recordings of the number of deaths within The U.S.S.R. and The People's Republic of China to an individual that has analyzed these theories, in depth, as a political scientist... Is one interested in engaging in an actual discussion that involves reading hundreds of pages of information? Or, is one willing to remain close-minded on the subject with Wikipedia sources? Edit: This was posted without reading the previous post. It is a lot of content for the average working-class citizen, whom works a minimum of thirty hours per week, to read... trust me... it's a practice that involves a lot of time and dedication in order to understand the information in depth... cannot blame you. Edited February 2, 2018 by DLimit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4, 2018 I see that DLMIT is discussing the Lenin utopia of communism, which true, has never existed. That so far is true, but according to the idolized future... no states or governmental organizations will exist. So to that fact, that is why no communist party can ever bring about communism. It's like trying to reach the end of a rainbow, impossible. https://www.livescience.com/32455-why-cant-we-reach-the-end-of-the-rainbow.html Hope that clears it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4, 2018 I hate to interrupt but perhaps the discussion of real life politics such as communism (due to the fact that this discussion has very far-stemmed away from being Identity-related and is now simply relating to real life situations) should either be moved to private messaging or just not be discussed. Plus, without wishing to mini-mod at all (as I know I'm not a Moderator, I simply don't want anybody to get into trouble at all), discussing real life politics is, in fact, against the rules. So please, just be careful. Again, I know I'm not a Mod, I just don't want anyone getting into trouble and, if it hasn't already, I can definitely sense hateful and aggressive fighting erupting from this thread. In addition, this post is regarding Maurice Clinton's self-removal from the race, not a place for the discussion of political ideologies so perhaps you should respect that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
