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Everything posted by SharpShep
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Just a thought but would this not be an interesting Item you get one and it changes your name in the game while active so people can't find you as easy and think you just look like someone else. Also make and sell them to other players.
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Will probable cause be needed to search someone or does the game plan on going all police state on us? I fully admit i am asking this for all the most hilariously wrong reasons but it is still a fair thing to ask.
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Not scanning that would be kinda op maybe a spot the difference game and the better and more expensive the ID the harder it would be to spot.
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What do you think would make this work well and what do you think should be used to spot them.
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Most games will have admins on hand. This will be a beta and they will be needed to see over every problem and glitch.
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The makers of the game will want to make the masses happy not the few trolls who want RDM all the time everywhere.
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I am just making a guess based on it's something most people don't want and this game is being made by a company would wants people to buy the game. There might be RDM servers though.
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99.9% persent of the players don't want people going on random shooting sprees and just being giants pains in are collective ass so bans are likely for it. Frankly i am fine if i die for a valid rp reason. Hell i would ever be okay with a serial killer going around if they where careful and adding some mystery to the game but hell no to some troll coming up and murdering for no reason at all. just adding this in after the fact if a guy played as a pizza delivery driver for a year or longer rp having mental health problems and a violent tendency or two. Being killed by him would piss me off less but still a lot since there is effort and build up in it.
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That is kinda of a impossible task for the admins man. Some will just take money and say they where trying to impress a gang and show them they are willing to kil. Which would be idiotic but still valid in rp. Some will just make up reasons later and if people email or skype friend they could get them to say. It was planned as a test in voice latter on. Not to mention the admins will have no choice but to piss someone off each kill. Since they are going to get in the way of the robbers rp or the player who feels wronged for being killed regardless of the rp.
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How close in Value will game money be to real money by this I mean How much will clothing cost in game? How much will a car cost? How much will a house cost? How much will a Drug RV cost? How much does a Gun cost? This effects all aspects of the game so i quite curious. Do cops get a gun for free if so that could be bad since it would be more easy to kill a cop and steal a gun if they cost more then in real life and is it even worth doing legitimate jobs if you are only getting peanuts for it. Unless you do a select few of them.
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Thank you all for helping make this so clear i feel i have a much better grasp on what might be going on with the money in the game.
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Killing for no reason being a ban i do not doubt that at all. But depending if they are in a non safe area the reason does not have to be that great try running from a mugger good chance of death if the player is a addict or something. Someone puts a price on your head because your a business rival that is another reason. You might just get killed if you know the wrong person and someone wants to send them a message. You have to remember a the reasons someone may kill you may seem stupid to you in rp. But may be a part that makes their own character unique to them in rp. So the best idea is to stay in the safe zones if you don't want those type of people. Kinda like i don't walk around the bad areas of my city at night wearing my good suit and favorite watch. I enjoy having those things and now being stabbed and or shot.
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Yes your right lesser servers will spread where the entire system of player choice is undone by what mods want to do since they will have final say since they are paying for it and i will never understand why people want that. . It seems like we always find a group of small minded people like you on every game people who want to dictate their own proper way to play the game and preach on a soap box and that's why you can go hide in your little box. As for me i will be playing with the people that can handle real rp with the long and deep stories. Where players can handle that someone playing as a criminal may have a disregard for human life and that actions can and will be taken in it that they may not like. The kind of rp that mirrors the fact life is not fare your choices do not matter. Because stuff happens and their are epic story lies with real outcome. I get your are used to the type of rp call the mods if you don't like anything and take a hour long talk to decide what happens ahead of time controlled rp and that fine there is room for both. So yeah i will be on the real servers and you can hide in your box with the other people who don't play real rp games.
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First off i am not picking on you i just happen to have much better informed view points on the subjects then you and am capable of showing my view point in a understandable way. You on the other hand are acting like a child you come onto the a place to discuss possibility's and view points and get angry when people don't agree with you. You have accused me of trolling for asking me to clarify what your statement meant and are now trying to play the victim card because you can't think of a single reasonable argument to defend your points of view.
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Yes i am a troll which is why i am showing you every reason you are wrong using logic and facts like how the devs have said there will not be any corrupt cops and then showing you why police not acting like police would have in game solutions through the politic systems. Since no one would like the cops being idiots. would be punished since it would be a easy way to gain votes. You on the other hand are clearly not trolling by saying stuff not quoting and making sure there in no context in your post at ll Makes no sense at all without context are you talking about the post from the devs that list outstanding crimes will be listed under known criminals because i think that is what masks are for. Any it is funny you mention that at all since the post about a system that auto knows murders. Has only been in reference to someone murdering someone and wanting join the police sometime after that. At least as far as i have seen but i fully admit to not reading every tweet and dev post
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You do know if you are working on sped up time in game then that is the same thing as paying someone more for a job. Since a player is getting more money for the total real effort they have to put in to get it.
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Yes what was this post in reference too the whitelist system or the thing i was saying with goals being listed.
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Yes but your forgetting your the top guy in the police will have to answer to a elected in game person who can fire then if they base it off real politics. So the police can and will be held accountable by people pissed off they got shot due to police idiocy.
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That would be great but that does not do anything for the real problem which is a whole pile of dead people. So the Robber can basically play violent and try to catch the police off guard or risk having to deal with people with hero fantasies on the cop side. Also if you kick people out of the police it might be hard to fill the ranks considering the criminals will have no such problem filling there own ranks with violent thugs. The best system would be for the cops to have goals placed in hud so they can see what they are supposed to do. With reward like medals are positive mark towards promotions for doing well and punishments like getting fired being demoted or just having to do only parking duty for a set amount of real world hours. and there could be tricky information like anyone in the bank without a mask is marked as hostage but they could be a plant with a gun or trying to get out with money. So they have to do stuff like remember to keep order and not let them slip off. and on the other side criminals could have different set of huds info like a bar with goals to keep quiet based of info they have collected.and if they then if the cops come there could be something that tell them how much trouble they are in if they are caught.
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So your saying that someone would have to work 8 hours delivering pizzas to meet the same real world paycheck.
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Sounds about fair so normal prices but heavy wage increase to account for the lack of time most people have in the real world to play a game.
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1 .That seems to work and make a fair amount of sense to just now allow guns inside a bank if you want to enter the legal way. 2 and 3. So your saying that the cops knew the robbers had a group of hostages but did not the exact point they where hell and they killed one or two in a show of force. Saying if we even think you are trying to enter or take the band in any way we will kill them all. The cops would make a move knowing it would there is a very good chance the hostages would die and a small chance they would be able to stop the robbers form killing them given the information they have. in this situation lets just assume the robber have disabled any cameras with hacking or just destroying them and are smart enough to keep the hostages away from the window.
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Yes but if they happen to search but where found to not have reasonable suspicion or probable cause and found anything it will all be scratched. As for being know to be a criminal group you would have to been convicted with them or being seen with the people is a crime family could simply be a friendship so reasonable doubt. Because unless convicted you are suspected by law not knowing because your innocent till proven guilty.
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First learn to read i said if your not seeing committing a crime and are not noticed a white flag should not work a cctv camera would count well within that as being noticed so my point still stands. Second it's a game not real life real so different things work. As you said earlier people won't just stay idle which is not very realistic since almost everyone tends to just cower in a robbery. So i don't know why you keep bring up realism and then trying to ignore it. Because it is a game the cops will be more willing to shoot since there won't be any downside for shooting an armed criminal like 9 hours of paper work and mandatory therapy to get put back to work. Last i can just wait and observe when the least cops are online on average normally given time and day and plan around coming and doing it then so we outnumber them and it works in rp since i am just checking when the least cops on on duty.
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Yes and it is under fire for the fact it is a law mostly used by the cops to search minorities in poorer areas. "While reasonable suspicion does not require hard evidence, it does require more than a hunch. A combination of particular facts, even if each is individually insignificant, can form the basis of reasonable suspicion. For example, police may have reasonable suspicion to detain someone who fits a description of a criminal suspect, a suspect who drops a suspicious object after seeing police, or a suspect in a high crime area who runs after seeing police." Took that from a website for to check what you meant. So no a cop just can't stop me unless i look like someone who did something or do something idiotic.