I NEVER said i want the game now, Point it out where i said that specifically? I even mentioned there is no point releasing the town square module. What i meant is there are constant excuses, each time they said they are releasing something it never happens. I don't see how this can build a good relationship between the community and the company. Same exact thing happened to many developers, even the big dogs in the industry but one way or another the community had to be heard otherwise it looked like a downfall, example: For Honor (Ubisoft). If you going to throw dates, give yourself a lot of room for error otherwise people will hold you to it. Most people feel they are running around in circles because Asylum has not been doing very well with communicating.

It obviously would be unwise to release a mess. Point is month after a month nobody has an idea what's really going on. I like what someone else is doing for another game that is more of a police simulator but they do their best to speak out to the community and give them an update. The guys does is solo and he did a lot by himself compared to Asylum!

Not sure if you're trolling or what is the case with you, I just told you what they can do. Nobody has the time to sit and watch 3 hours dev vlog of creating a lamp. You can do the same like majority of the new guys, Warhorse Studios showed a lot of behind the scenes of the development, Like showing how their team is developing the game, You see it it's right there no bull. I would love to have a business and customers like you so i can just take your money and pat you down each time i have no answer when will i deliver what i sold to you and each time you just bow your head. Obviously that is just an example and we are not running a store here. But "AGAIN" what part of it you do not comprehend, there are many things they can do and show that they have not done so yet..development is an ongoing process so it does not sit idle. They can be creative, do something like warriors den that Ubi does for For Honor. The demand will be there if you like it or not, Start accepting the fact until Asylum clears up the mess they got themselves into. I mean seriously dude you remind me of the Antifa clowns that no matter what you tell them they are just brainwashed robots with zero commons sense and logic.

Actually as a "pledger" i get to demand. Who is saying i can not you? We all can because we invested real MONEY into this project, Without any of us it would not exist. That is "powerful" So get your head from wherever it is and stop telling people they are not allowed to demand and hold those they invested in accountable. We all have a voice in this. Trust me if my money is involved in something i will as questions simply because you don't live my life, you don't pay my bills, and most importantly you do not work my job and get paid for my effort at it. You want to pretend to be a fan boy and tell people they can't voice their opinions? give your best try cause not every single individual here is half asleep. Maybe it's time you get a reality check cause you going to get checked by those that pledged their money. There are people who invested a lot and by all means not every person here screams "mommy" and their parent's bank account opens up with a cash flow. With the whole disaster Asylum got itself they can fix this by doing something that can give people a better insight on what's going on. You yourself mentioned tons of time by now pointing that most information can be obtained via discord, well this does not make it official, Joe tells Mark, Mark misunderstood what Joe said and tells Fred something else and it's a ever going circle of a mess. I know you want the best for the game, I think all of us do. But there are ways of ding things properly and that is a reason why you got a lot of people pissed off, It's not the fact that it's taking a while, but the inconsistency of what they promise vs what do we see happen.

I can't believe you're accepting that as a game play. You can achieve running around a city in few weeks.

What have they shown? Models? , Broken physics? Everyone says we seen game play, Well i am not sure that running around a level with few buildings, couple of models and few visual effects can be labeled as game play. Perhaps they would still have to connect certain systems together in order to make things work properly, but as it stands right now it's not really game play. As i said before i would not care about town square release since people will get bored very quick, but give us some info, show us how you work on this, share a bit of the development like most of the companies do.

It's not about thing being handed on a silver platter. Weather you like it or not there must be some kind of industry standards...The constant excuse of Asylum being a indie developer, or that it's their first game won't fly anymore, This excuse got old and got abused too much. Obviously they are digging themselves a bigger hole and they are doing it to themselves. Maybe that is the idea, game is too ambitious so let's get the pledged money and take off. The forums have been buzzing for a while and they have no clarified much at this point. In terms of patience i have been patient since the kick starter was announced and at this point i would like to hold Asylum accountable and have things clarified.

Beachball made a long response to one of the posts on the tracker stuff. From what i am understanding the tracker lists a task that they need to finish but under that one task could be couple of other problems/bugs they run into or rather they can keep on running into things, soit kind looks like peeling an onion i suppose. That clarification was much needed as i also have been concerned regarding this.

I don't think it matters what type of images they use for concept art or as a base nor where they are coming from. I imagine almost every game developer will use some kind of structures to build form..anyone remember Warhorse Studios showcasing how they build building models for Kingdom Come Deliverance? A lot of stuff was taken from the real places that were there historically and they would modify them. Amazing structures are inspirational it would be a sin not to use them.

Indeed. When in a today's generation you have first graders running around with iPhones how do you expect them to be able to reason? If the answer is not on google then it's too much work to think on your own..If the answer is on google, well.. That's all Folks! that's the truth and everything else is a lie. ARMA RP blew up in terms of demand, people from ARMA 3 Life made a lot of money, If you can make thousands of dollars and it's surly way more than a hundred thousand dollars what does that tell you? It is a gold mine for an indie developer. Obviously all of the custom RP mods had people with a amazing talent, I myself was a staffer for an upcoming mod that would probably blow the rest out of the water however few issues came to life with developers and it did not happen. This very idea to try to move this to another game engine was not only brought up by Asylum few tried to attempt the same however perhaps it was too ambitious for them trying to execute, I know for a fact Mike Baxter wanted to attempt the same and those deep in the RP on ARMA know who he is. So where does this take us? Obviously there are issues. Did Asylum end up hitting the wall? Maybe, All i know is that things are not being handled properly and yet this is very scary that people are still on these forums blindfolded. Development takes time, but we don't exactly see tremendous progress here. I am not condemning the project, I am simply questioning things because i am holding people in charge accountable. If my money was spent on something i will ask these questions because i worked for it and it's not coming out out of my parents bank account.

I am overwhelmed with your response. It must have been extremely difficult to do "nothing" but insult someone. However I suppose that's your contribution.

If you convince me to invest into your project, You better believe i will come through and hold you accountable and will like to know the progress. If you're not asking questions then it's you choice. Don't expect everyone else to simply bend over. What have you contributed if you are shouting about contributions? Define your contributions when not being part of dev team? The fact that you probably have no clue or never touched a game engine in your course of life determines the ease of rolling over. I suggest you watch your language, There community also has a lot of youngsters around so have some consideration.

I understand that, But honestly playing a module running around building where 98% of things are not functional will get you bored extremely fast. Maybe they have plans for that and are delaying it since it's very much logical people will get burned out after 2 weeks and they want to add some things to keep them busy, i mean let's be serious, Even if they release this tomorrow people would get bored right away and complain they are bored. If you think about it that would really happen.

I really would not care if the module is not out. I rather play the full game than a module. That is just me, everyone has an different feeling regarding that. Just every month show us some stuff, make it enjoyable, have fun doing a showcase even like the Star Citizen people did. It's profitable for you as a developer, you get folks hyped up. And we get a slice of a fat cake with the showcase.

Sometimes they may be at a stage where they can do certain things or they would be not functional. But they did show some videos of game play. I think a dev dairy would be a great thing to glue everything back together with the community.

True, Bugs will be there no matter what. Have not seen a single game released where they did not run into any bugs.

You can't compare them to a AAA Developer, In this case nobody should be saying how many years it should or will take them to get this one. That needs to be clear. Majority developers give themselves a huge gap when announcing the release of their product just to be on the safe side in case something happens but even with this things can turn out sour and they may have to extend it. Look nobody should think that they can announce an release date, We don't know much a bout the dev team and i mean the entire team etc. These things can be announced by AAA developers because they got the fire power to back it up. Everyone will have different experiences and issues. I really like how ARK devs did everything i mean that's an indie developer and their game is not exactly super simplicity either but they had about 40 developers working on the project and they were communicating with their supporters. If you're in trouble, or you end up hitting a well and trying to figure stuff up how to piece it together your best bet is to express that with your community instead of constantly moving things around staying in a shadow and making bunch of model screenshot posts that clearly are great but does not really indicate where are we in the process of development. Truth will always be so much better that a sweat lie, When you tell people the truth they will forgive you, If you tell them a lie they won't forgive and neither forget you as well. I honestly think they end up hitting a wall trying to piece something together, Especially that this game/module requires networking and knowing Unreal Engine that could be a pain in the rear to deal with.

Release dates can be pushed back, It's very common in game development since you could walk into to all sorts of trouble. In their case they did and from what we were told they had to start from scratch. Not sure what was the exact reasoning for the restart but clearly just stating that and nothing else is a poor way of communicating with the community. ( perhaps they did mention why at this point i don't remember or missed it) However demanding a release date is a bit silly, Demanding answers and update on the development since these trackers don't really tell us much is a totally different story.

People are upset, Do you blame them? There is 0 transparency. They are not stating any issues they are facing to be clear why are they so behind. Stating that they had to start from scratch does not mean they lost the models, they may had to rewrite the code but then again it would put them behind but how far behind nobody knows. Also no developer is ever alone in, a lot of technical stuff is being helped out by the unreal team when you have the license they will provide support. In 3 weeks we have not heard from the dev team giving us some kind of answer and if they are so confident everything is going the right direction why don't we hear anything from them about it?

Wow, great way to prove your intelligence. If someone finds a tiny bit of wisdom in there let me know.

A task can take a while..depending on a task. However if you do not communicate with the community it's obvious people will think that. I do.

Can't blame anyone for having that kind of opinion. It's no secret that the community is upset. A lot of us were excited when we heard about this game, especially those that have an background in life mods such as Arma 3 Life, I know PSISYN played on there as well. At the moment i feel a bit disappointing Mike B did not get a chance to release Nerds RPG, It was so promising under his wing and being a staff member on his team we all felt like we are finally getting something with quality and standards.

Poorly advocated, If my money is involved into something i will hold you accountable. We talked about this before and it's clear that they have extremely poor communication skills.

25 people is not a bad number. You can't expect them to manage everything top notch since it's a learning experience for them also, But that is not the argument, The argument is a poor communication with the community. Instead of Discord gossip it would be nice to be updated by the official post because they are digging themselves a bigger hole. If you promise something, people will hold you accountable for it. If they have hit a wall in development trying to connect the nuts let us know and folks will understand. when you keep on promising and do not deliver each time people will start loosing interest. This is not out of their own budget project..there are people who invested money into this so you better believe people will ask questions.

I agree to the Networking problem. UE4 is know for that and they would have to write their own server or use something like Photon. Maybe Photon with GamesParks and those are not free of course.