I honestly can't say i'm surprised. 4 years. 4. years. They have no excuse. I was banned from their discord for no reason. I don't know how to request a refund, but I want one.

I enjoy this immensely.

Betas take a year. Games take 4. See the difference?

-"technical issues" Lol -"P.S. I am not referring to the developers as a scammers." "Please o holy ones don't ban me I swear I wasn't doubting you PLEASE don't hate me ;-;"

So let me get this straight: I spent 30 dollars of my own money that I worked for, on a video game based on the promise that the developers would deliver a working game to me. The developers blatantly disregarded their own promises, took millions of dollars, and created a steaming pile of shit The community blatantly ignores the fact that in 4 years the developers created something equivalent of a 3D minecraft mod, and still stands by them regardless of how badly they're lying to you, and how bad they fucked up. Anyone who disagrees is NOT ALLOWED A REFUND due to "Technical Limitations" and therefore, we should just leave and consider it a "lost cause" I have been scammed. UNTIL I am given a refund, transparency from the developers, or the game they promised, I will continue to state that I have been scammed. I will continue to promote this game as a steaming pile of garbage, and a cash grabbing scheme. And I will keep complaining on this site. I paid money, and if they ban me from both the discord and the site, they'll just confirm my beliefs.

Not even close, considering he contradicted himself massively by saying people make "hundreds of posts" threatening to not play the game when he just criticized me and denounced my validity by saying I have under 30 posts.

Maybe its because I came here to play a game, not argue about one. How many of your fucking posts are responding to people like me and shutting them down for having genuine frustrations towards the developers because you simply WANT to start arguments. Im willing to bet 80% of your posts are exactly that.

Can't give solutions if we don't know the problems. Can't get a refund if we've already played the game. source: Refunds can only be processed if purchases fall within the 180 day window Paypal offers for buyer protection.Important Note(STEAM): Due to technical limitations, refunds cannot be provided to accounts that have been manually linked to STEAM by the account holder. If you claim a STEAM Key for the "Identity: Town Square" module, it will no-longer be possible for "Asylum Entertainment Inc." to process refund requests due to our inability to de-activate the steam key after it is claimed via the STEAM desktop client. Future purchases from the STEAM Store or marketplace will require STEAM Support to process any refund requests, and will be subject to STEAM's own refund policy

You're the only person on this entire site so far that isnt batshit crazy. Thank you for your well-structured and intellectual response. My issue is that they don't know what theyre doing. I should be more careful investing in things like this, but a post on the forum that says "We fucked up. We're behind on development because we are running into problem after problem, and the game is terrible. We feel terrible" would honeslty make EVERYTHING better. Transparency is ALL that we need, point blank. Tell us you never even planned on making the game, tell us this was all a scam but it turned into a dream, I don't care how bad the reality is, I just want it. I want the truth, not a wall of "we're working on it" posts. I'm willing to wait 10 years for what they promised, and I love the ideas that they have. I just think they're better off hiring open-source testers to work out bugs and kinks, allow for massive beta testing by the community who paid for the early access pass to find MORE bugs, and spend more time working on base-gameplay rather than added features. Either that, or they need to sell the rights to a professional company to produce something real.

Lmao, sure thing friend. I can't get a refund, and I paid for the game, so i'm showing up for EVERY PATCH. Have fun wasting your life waiting for this game to be a game.

Blatant ignorance of what everyone is complaining about Blind devotion to the game How much are they paying you, friend.

Alright, i'll start by saying this. Money isn't my issue. I spent 30 dollars on this game, and it only comes to mind once every couple of weeks. Im not motivated by desire, or a refund, or even anger. So devs/moderators, take this into consideration. All of it. The Dev Tracker is honestly ridiculous and you guys know it is. Whoever you had in charge of updating it wasn't doing that, and it sat on 1-2 things left for upwards of 2 months. That is... words cant describe what that is. The game itself has been in development for YEARS, which is something you have all heard before, and your generic "Developin gayms taeks a lot of tyme" isn't even reputable anymore. It's been too long, and you guys are VERY OBVIOUSLY focusing your efforts on things that are so stupid, SUCH AS: Streaming the development. Streaming takes A LOT of effort, and communication with fans in the chat, and so far your streams have been an accurate depiction on the work ethic. "Hey guys, welcome to this stream where we take about 2 of our (previously stated) 20 developers, and take about 4 to 5 hours making a fucking lampshade! Join us again next year when we start work on the table legs!" Its absurd, streaming it is stupid and time consuming. A whole new fucking website design? Seriously? We're all SCREAMING for an update on progress and the best you can do is make the fucking website look pretty? What was even the purpose in that, just stop fiddling your dick and FINISH THE MODULE. Fucking. Micro-transactions. This is the main reason im making this post. You have over 1 million USD just from backers. Thats the average middle class mans LIFETIME EARNINGS. Yet, you spend more time making pointless things like fucking more apartments? Only this time it costs 100. Fucking. Dollars. I snooped in the store some more, and saw that you're LITERALLY SELLING THE CONCEPT OF A CUSTOM LICENSE PLATE FOR 15 FUCKING DOLLARS. Thats fucking ABSURD. Considering so far we get updates tri-monthly that contain messages like "We still workin on it" and "Hold yer horses, its only been 3 years" you would think they could give us something other than another way to waste our money on hope. Which, ties into my final point. See, i've realized a steady pattern with this development team, and I have a theory. You see, Asylum was a very small team, with a genuine hope to recreate that ARMA RP that we all know and love, but they needed funding. They started simple, you know, advertising an amazing game with a trailer and saying "Please, all we need is funding and we can make this happen" and they said it with TRUTH. Then, the wave. People donating willy nilly, praising this god tier game trailer, expecting an orgasm worthy experience. They have amassed a grand total 1,296,948 United States Dollars. Now I dont know how much it costs to pay for resources like textures, licenses, and a monthly subscription of whatever software they use to develop the game, BUT, I can tell you that there is NO reason it should cost 1.296 million dollars to make ONE MODULE that by the way, has no currency system, is completely experimental, and has a grand total of TWO CARS. TWO. I cant even imagine what the physics system is like. So anyway, Asylum were SHOCKED at this, and noticed that, they were making fucking bank on this. The hype train, the Pledges, the donations, hell, the twitch revenue (cant confirm, just a thought) and them being a very small, inexperienced development team, took the EA route real fucking fast. Overhyping games, putting out JUST enough information to keep the fans from rioting, and collecting those sweet sweet pre-order deals, then the second the game drops, there are paywalls EVERYWHERE. The player had no idea, and now they wasted hundreds on a game that they can barely play. Asylum, you've practically fucked your entire future as a company, and destroyed every last bit of fanbase you had. You needed to release more updates, you needed to put more effort into the game, you needed to stop being fucking greedy, and either release the game, or refund the backers. Judging by the micro transactions, this game is going to be HELL. And I will be refunding as soon as possible.

Your point stands on one leg, which has been cut in half, sir. If you look back to what you quoted, I said "PLAYABLE." and that right there is a gamePLAY. TRAILER. Its a playable game, and once again you've proven another point of mine. They waste their time on assets when the main gameplay functions dont even work. Car with 3 wheels, yet about 400 new clothing items are added every millisecond? You would think they would focus on, you know, making the cars work. Considering they're charging me an entire days salary just to drive ONE of the TWO cars they have.

I hate to sort of throw you in with the group but: DEAR EXTREMELY DEVOTED BACKERS. THIS IS HOW YOU RESPOND TO SOMEONE WITHOUT SEEMING LIKE AN ASSHOLE.

No, most of the people defending the devs are blind to reason. the devs could massacre the entire eastern coast and the people on this website would find some reason to defend them.

Id like to reply to this, once again, very subjective reply to a very reasonale post. With a video of one of the devs. Playing the game. That is unfinished. Playing. Unfinished. Sounds a little strange right?

Nice Woah cool, you left out the part where I explained WHY I did that to make me seem like an idiot. I love the unbroken devotion random people have to the damn devs.

*ahem* The base post was a mere warning to the developers because if the micro transactions are here to stay, that's what I will be doing. As a consumer, the developer should actually care about that.

Again, Im not refunding. The base post was a mere warning to the developers because if the micro transactions are here to stay, that's what I will be doing. As a consumer, the developer should actually care about that, they should think "Well people are threatening to refund because we're charging 15 dollars for a license plate, better think about removing those in game transactions" but they don't. As someone who's been following this game for years, and actually pre-ordered it around a year ago, I honestly feel like nothing. Like the developers just think "We're doing what we want, and if you dont like it, suck it! You gave us money and its OURS now, nothing you can do about it." No, I don't hate the devs, but they're a small team that isn't ready for this kind of attention. They aren't making a game for their friends anymore. The updates are never promising, they're just... predictable. "Good news! The Town Square Module is almost here!" "Soon, very soon!" "More updates coming soon!" Then we wait months until they come back with like, 3 pictures and a brief summary of what they said... in the last update and they say: "Good news! The Town Square Module is almost here!" "Soon, very soon!" "More updates coming soon!" It all feels very programmed, and behind that curtain I think the devs are are little scared, because they simply dont have any experience. So they appoint the one with the most confidence to convince the fans that the game is nearing release, but they just come onto the site and TARGET us, like we don't have a right to be upset. Not once have the devs said sorry. I just wish they would do something to recognize what exactly they've been giving us. Imagine it from our POV.

I honestly thought there were more rational people like you on the forums based on what I've seen in other posts, but the dedication to the developers is insane. They fucked up, and yeah my post was angry but literally all it would take is to say "Yeah, we know. We done fucked up" and im actually positive most of the people complaining would be satisfied. Its the lack of actual information we're getting. Like, its almost as if the game only exists on this website.

Ill bet my girlfriend, my life savings, and my kidney against this.

I dont understand why everyone is so defensive of these fucking devs man, its like you know something nobody else does.

I like this reply.

I didn't say I wasn't here for a refund, I said I wouldn't be motivated by money. My post isn't fishing for free stuff, of threatening to refund. I specified: "I'm not motivated by money, or anger." THAT means: I don't care about a refund, 30 dollars isn't a huge loss to me. BUT, there are problems I have that I want to be addressed, and I think as someone who willingly put money into this, I deserve to know more, just like every other backer.

Alright. We paid for it, and we've been CONSTANTLY lied to. The developers don't even provide an apology for making everyone wait so long, they actually respond to genuine questions and complaints with smart ass jokes. It isn't reputable because we've seen the fucking trailers, and the other trailers, and the OTHER trailers, clearly the game is finished or at least PLAYABLE, they're only holding it for more money, and until we have another explanation as to WHY it isn't released, we literally can't come to any other assumption. I'd also like to point out that you're bringing in an ENTIRELY different topic and bringing a genuine complaint to a ridiculous level to ridicule me, which I don't appreciate. Its extremely immature. At what point did I even state that the 3D artists had ANYTHING to do with coding? You pulled that out of your ass. My complaint, the focus was- actually let me make it easier for you to understand. WHY DOES IT TAKE 4 HOURS TO MAKE A LAMPSHADE. WHY DO THE DEVELOPERS GIVE THEMSELVES MORE DISTRACTIONS BY STREAMING THE ENTIRE PROCESS. Your entire reply was just dodging legitimate questions and bringing up random things to make me seem like a fucking lunatic.