LOL - to funny. Seriously, Something is far better than nothing. I'm exited for the first time!

I lift up my head from a 4 year slumber... "huh? what you say son?" I stretch out my arms with a spark of excitement but not yet sure what I just herd. Then suddenly I look around the room, so many others still in there slumber... Wait... did we just get a real live publish date of a real product??! Is this real life? Am I dreaming this?! Each new questions brings even more excitement as I hop out of my slumber.!!!

Ha ha, true that, and I'm pretty sure "something" will go wrong, "something" will be delayed, and I am betting this is yet another delay attempt in the making. lol. Lets see if I'm right I will say this however, if it ever does get published, I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of excitement.

I think you misunderstood Forcedchaos . He is talking about real life politics. In-game politics should be and is part of the game, that I can agree with. Personally I think we should keep the civil war that separates our country in half with this "Trump haters" vs "Clinton/Obama haters" out of a game that we fictitiously play in and want to be part of to enjoy the game.(If we ever can...)

In real life, I never talk politics to nobody. I keep my thoughts to my self, its not a good idea to talk politics, especially in the days of today. That being said, I do believe in in-game politics that has nothing to do with the real world and maintaining a non-bias attitude.

For the last few months I have been in and out of these forums complaining that this game was a sham, scam, and then some. I was wrong.... whoah!! calm down dagtag and Preston_bodhi_343 !! This is not a dream! In fact I woke up...... Quick simple truth: There is simply no proof this is a scam even if there is no product. Who am I to say otherwise. Long and detailed truth: After sleeping in bed last night on my actions and words I have realized how wrong I was to simply assume this was a scam. As a developer I sit for days at times locked away in my cave hidden from the world just programing and listing to dub-step. It truly is a lot of work, it takes passion, skill, and a LOT of time and patience with plenty of obstacles. When I woke up I saw the light..... Who am I to take that away from the developers of this game? How wrong I was and who I am not. Ill tell you who I am not... I am not somebody that takes away hard work from somebody who spent countless hours learning, creating, and developing something like this. I am somebody who encourages other developers to create new things, and to expand on there knowledge, Ive done that my whole life, but yet here I am the last few months accusing these developers of being a scam just because I ran out of patience, whether it be days, weeks, months, or in this case years. I am not the judge nor jury, nor should I act like one. It is true, this project have received over a million bucks, taken many years to this point, this game may, or may not ever be published !!.. BUT honestly, it is actually part of game development, trust me, Ive developed plenty of nothings even after a year or so more in development I have scrapped games, and If anybody should know that the most it is me. Game development is hit and miss. Truly a Risky business. So I will apologize to these developers, I will not take away there hard work just because there is no product yet. Instead I want to thank them for the inspiration of this game, giving us hope that It could one day exist, even if it never does. If this game fails, perhaps I may take on this type of project my self, It actually Sounds like a lot of fun and I am more than capable of achieving a game like this. (If you have not noticed yet, I have never been good at modesty;)) Annnywayyyys....... Thank you for Identity, I found mine. -MadApples

You see Mr.Mog? it would be impossible to make a Nigerian princes happy, my relationship wouldn't last long, and java would still be my true love.

I happen to to like all cultures of many types, and wouldn't mind making any one of them happy, after all I do need a girlfriend.

c# is extremely similar after moving from c#, when I found java, I fell in love with the syntax. This is probably why I don't currently have a girl friend..

That's awesome, and its great to see somebody expand there languages like you are doing. As you probably have noticed, once you learn one language, other languages become easy to learn.

"scam babies" ? Is that the new term for you people ? LOL I love it! But lets try and be adults and not name call the majority of us so that I can actually take you seriously, huh? I am here because of my investment. Its true I don't care about the $60 I invested a few years ago, and still with out a product to play.. But by god, I'm going to make sure i get my share of my $60 in these forums So go sit back down and don't tell me how I should spend my time. (In other words, treat me with the same respect I gave you.) And its true I feel like this is a total sham, scam, what ever you wish to call it as you claim I do, well not only me, but a lot of users... look around the forums... and yes there is a lot of us, that are more than agitated by the very long delays, and by the way its been handled , and you don't approve of our opinions ? Is this what you say to everybody ? Is this the professionalism you wish to convey? So what your saying is, we are not allowed to voice our concern after years of our money vanished with out a product, because you and your goonies think we should be more patient? OOOKK then, i got ya Not sure what world your from tho... Its people like you who actually confirm that this is simply a scam. At least dagtag made more sense than you. Have you read my above post in response to DagTag? before you came along I kind of gave him the benefit of doubt by expressing its possible it was simply poor development choices rather than a scam... but NO, here you are stirring the pot... proving otherwise. Good job!

Im not going to look, but I bet at least they have a product....

Ok(dagtag) , Fresh meet here, come and eat...

C# was my first object oriented language I moved on after I found out Microsoft is no longer supporting xna. I then went to c++ but did not like the syntax, and then learned java. I love java now!!!! unlike c#/xna i don't have to use mono.. OH, i got a joke for you.... .. bad geek joke i made up... read at your own risk.... What is C ? its combined, but some think console. So what is C2? well its c++ (c=c+1) Ok.. so what is C3? wait i know.. a drunk programmer fell face first on his keyboard and found the #(number 3 key) and called it c#. ____ edit: fixed speling mistackes abuv....^^ <--- yea, wat kond of programor am i, Cont even spel!!

Awesome, Currently Java and android here, you ?

Definitely guilty here... You definitely have patients as a saint, wish i can have your patients, invest my money, wait a few years with out a product and still make a post like this. And yes, I am a developer

Thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts, I am always listening. You have forgotten to mention about the steam key released not long ago... I can respect you defending a project like this if its not a scam, Honestly I would do the same for any of mine, good job. But just note, It has never happens to me mostly because Ive been able to be responsibly give realistic release dates with out misleading users. I do hope this is not a scam. Perhaps when and if the game gets released I will be proven wrong. That would be nice ---Spoil alert!! - me just rambling for a bit, I guess I'm just in the mood...-- YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!- read at your own risk. Not to boast, or change the subject, nor that I care what you think, but I happen to be a great developer, mostly java and android now, (And no.. I'm not talking about simple things, I'm talking about real stuff like, server-side, client-side data-streams, multi threading, multi sockets, indices, vertices, matrices, and quaternion mathematics(3D development), 64 bit password encrypted methods, SQL database, ext... ext... bleh bleh...You can say its my passion.) and as I program, I use forward thinking as I develop new codes and methods, with very few if any bugs. If i get bugs I fix it asap (usually within a day or week at most while its still fresh in my mind). Its called good programing skills. If you have so many issues with bugs or whatever..., perhaps hire a new developer to help out with your "hard to fix" bugs or development of the game as some of you already claimed in other posts that these few developers (even after getting paid more than Millions of dollars for this project alone) may not have the best skills to start with. --end of spoil alert-- Get it together is all I'm asking, and its possible this is not a scam, perhaps its simply poor development. I can live with that. Perhaps then these developers should have started a game a bit more.. easy to develop instead of taking on a project greater than there small team. I can also see how It would seem that I wanted this project to fail, that couldn't be farther from the truth, the truth is I have Gaven up after years and years of waiting patiently, after have given you my money. I know for a fact others feel the same way, Ive seen it in posts everywhere with people like you defending the project like wolfs on raw meat. (Again, I don't blame you for defending this project.) But that wont change peoples minds. -Action changes peoples minds, not words and 3D mesh artists.

" Yes, In my opinion " What part of that did you not understand ? Also you seem very defensive... just say-en... If i think this is a scam, as others do... , I'm going to treat it as such, its ok if you disagree. Also, "snags" take days, maybe weeks, possibly months?? huh?? to fix... Definitely not years of lies and fake release dates. Give me a break. I'm not going to high-jack this post with arguments with you, go and say your words as that's what scammers do, I simply stated my honest opinion to help answer the topic question. -Enjoy

Yes, In my opinion its a true scam. Its probably one of those 3rd world country's with call centers that call you to give money to them, but this time they got smart and created this fake game. Look how they defend them self's, I bet they will respond to this post and mock, defend, and destroy these types of comments. To me its fine, they can have my $60 that I gave years ago...., Ive already considered that money lost, no big deal. But Ill still stick around and watch all the other people get scammed as well and have a mild chuckle. This is truly a great scam, good job guys! The sad part is it gives us real developers a bad name. ;(

I realize its been months and months since I have given you my money, I realize you have a small crew, I realize you have haters and lovers waiting patiently, but just wanted to let you know I to am waiting.. still.. I believe this game would be fun and enjoyable, unlike most games out there, but this year long waits is starting to make me loose interest, I don't care about the money I have donated, (I say donated because I don't care to loose it to a scam, if this is a scam, its just money.) For those critics about to attack me for this post, go fly a kite, for this is my message to the team. I hope this game is worth the long delays, and look forward to playing and testing it some day. -MadApples

Totally agree with you As I keep saying, this thread is right on target.

As i said before, your entitled to your opinion, and I am glad you were able to prove your point. Realize I also have mine. I believe this topic is right on target.

This topic is in regards to "The Town Square" and how long it is taking to get released. If there is many other posts like mine as you suggested, perhaps there is a problem with the devs that need to be addressed. The longer this game takes, the quicker others will think this is a scam and I believe it needs to be addressed. No offense to you or the other users that continue to police my postings, but I am far within the rules of making a post. If you wish to be a moderator perhaps you should put in a application ? Rather than polluting my post with your pointless thoughts that have nothing to do with the topic of this post. The fact is I/we have waiting months and years for a promise not delivered. This post is needed, even if you disagree with me. I felt like giving a post, and I did. I realize you disagree and that's fine. We paid for a game, we eventually deserve to play the game.

Your always entitled to your opinion. It does not change my message or topic. The game is taking months and months , years and years, (so it seems.. lol) to be released after I have payed my donations.

The Topic pertains to: "The Town Square" and the long delay. I have 2 postings so far in over a year. That is not seeking attention but giving good feedback. If you feel salty for my postings, simply don't read them, thank you. I'm sure a lot of users not only disagree with your responses but will back me up.