I check back in because I am curious, but really don't care now, most likely wouldn't play it much like I do with games now.. Just chat, loiter. Timing, timing is everything.. But I bought it therefore I may as well keep up with it Maybe I'll feel differently in the future. I wouldn't be surprised if they delayed this again

I'm just thinking the game could feature all sorts of random detailed but simple games in the world.. The more activities you have the more players you'll attract and might keep if they don't care for or grow bored of the combat.. Shouldn't that be the idea, find something that works for everyone. I'm thinking things such as. Billiard tables Bowling Alleys Pinball Machines Dart boards Skeet ball Air Hockey Black Jack (either cards or machines) Slot machines Useable Basketball hoops.. Floor Hockey.. Ability to throw and catch random objects, potential to improvise games or combat tactics

NO Urban Arsenal is complete without..... THE RUGER MINI-30 and SKS LOL! There's a Benelli Nova.. Great shotgun, just not my preference, most agencies do not like it. Just surprised to see someone else noticed it.. Ever consider setting up advertising arrangements with arms manufacturers? As in they'll pay you to feature their guns and ads for within this game? Taurus is good, great even, but not a major brand.. They make reliable high quality Knock offs, but they just don't have that recognition.. like other manufacturers of 1911... Then when it comes to other guns you have The famous utility pump shotguns. The Benelli Nova, Ithaca 37 Mossberg 500 & 590, Remington 870, Winchester 1200 and 1300 as well as lesser known manufacturers. And I mean As yes there are some modern bizarre toys made by Keltec I know someone would mention those eventually if I missed that, As for Automatic Shotguns... The 3 most commonly used that have ever know of in mainstream use.. Were the Benelli Super 90, Franchi SPAS -12 & Remington 11-87.. Of course you have those novelty guns such as the SPAS-15 and Saiga. THIS! Brings me to a thought.. Since AR-15's and 1911's are so popular, always have been and always will be until guns fire something other than bullets... WHY not go after some advertising perks... Feature the AR's and 1911's as well as their adverts from whoever is willing to pay for it. At least check around to see if one will do it.. Who cares if the AR is a Bushmaster, Colt, Panther or whatever? Same for the 1911.. Same deal with Glock & Kahr Arms.. Very different but similar. High point is junk, BUT maybe that was a joke OR it would add to the effect of the game.. Low budget or just a throw away gun. I like the Beretta 85, it's my favorite Auto Pistol in terms of size and use.. Speaking of Berettas why not the Storm Pistol and carbine.. Not a hater but they're nothing special. The Beretta Px4 would have that stylish flare, same as the Carbine. Sig 220-229 Everyone Loves that Desert Eagle Mark 7 chambered .357 Magnum, because the .44 and .50 at just novelties that simply go KABOOM because nobody carries to shoot large game with .. Except Maybe that ONE guy.. If there will be hunting in the game there should be some Bolt Action rifles such a Browning, Kimber, Remington, Ruger, Savage, Stevens Weatherby, Winchester. All Similar, pretty much the same..

With any of the modern game development it is a potential for a cash scam.. If you get money regardless of a product being finished and have no group of investors expecting their money back then there is no pressure on these developers.. It could go on FOREVER! So there's that.. Not say this game is such a thing but overall as long as they receiving income for it, it really doesn't matter if they release something or not.. On top of that it's going to be an MMO which means they're going to charge all sorts of money for trivial virtual shit... I'm following because it's interesting and it could be good, but depending on how this develops.. if they don't releases something April... I only have so much time on this planet.. so... Waiting on these game is a waste of time. With any project, lack of lawyers, no board of investors, not contact... no obligation to produce or have a good reason for not meeting deadlines... They could drag it on forever... Investment scams.. BUT in this case they get the benefit of the doubt because they have bee showing a lot of work they have done... BUT just because they have a working version with their equipment doesn't mean they could ever release a working version for current gaming machines.. Is everything they're doing nothing more than a ruse to bait more investors? It's a lot of What if. I will say the amount of detail they have put into modeling, texturing, shading and lighting is very impressive, it is a marvel.

Old topic, but... why not? Anyway.. I never cared for the Fallouts Prior to third.. In fact when I heard of three I didn't pay attention to the commercials because of relation to the previous.. Don't get me wrong, they weren't bad, just not my flavor. Three was/is great. Leaving the Vault, the armor, the weapons, the enemies, the world.. the overall charm.. So much creativity went into the overall design of that game.. Four is really nothing more than a much better Fallout three.. Approaching Corvega, clearing the perimeter, making entry, fighting the way through. Every area and everything in that game is great.. The companions, the dialogue, weapons.. Just a well designed fun game.. Don't need to finish it to get your money's worth, there's so much content. 3 was great, New Vegas was great. BUT 4 has so much ambiance and charm, it feels alive. The constant respawn of the ghouls becomes annoying but without the areas would be empty.. I don't care what anyone says.. they put a lot of work and care into the design, direction and execution of fallout 4.. The add-ons might suck but I wouldn't know I never experienced any of them, but expanded content usually does so..

Late reply but I'm not in my 20's anymore therefore a new year only reminds me that I'm getting older which means my time is running out.

No, those whom choose to lower the hammer to holster it lower it to half-cock because it was designed that way to make cocking to fire faster.. But most don't, they just lock it in the cocked position.. WHY? there's a safety on the back strap of the grip.. The gun can't be fired, unless both that and the trigger are squeezed. And the lock on that gun is pretty difficult to unlock by accident. Even if that were to happen it still needs the blackstrap compressed in order to fire it.. Also with a manual decock with that model you're risking an accidental discharge anyway.. The gun is more likely to accidently discharge that way than the other. That's why more modern pistols have decoking levers. But single action models don't.. If you're going to decock it there is no reason for it be cock & lock. Something like a Beretta 92 type F was designed to decock into a double action with that lever and leave it unlocked or lock it with that same lever when it decock. You can fire it from double action rather than manually setting it but that's a why not you might not have time to do it manually so better to have it and not need it.. Many may argue the Type G is a better variation because when it's in double action their really is no reason to lock it. Most carry the F unlocked anyway, so they can cock the hammer while drawing it.. Same reason why DASA Sigs don't lock.. A unique feature with the Beretta 92 is sweeping the slide with your other hand is more natural.. While drawing it bring the other hand over the slide all the way back over the hammer before place that hand to the other. You may have seen people do that before and if so now you know what they're doing.

Since the 1911 is a single action and it's in a game... why is the hammer rested? At which point in the game would the hammer be rested? Why would the player do that or ever need to do that? I just point that out because if you go through all of the trouble to model it that well but the hammer is in the wrong position.. Plenty will notice it.

If already topic I apologized.. But I was thinking useable Dart boards, billiard tables and such would be cool.. To kill time or play against other players.. y'know some in-between activities as well as some more life to the game. Maybe card games and such. Pinball machines, generic arcade games unless you can get content that's no longer under license.. Maybe old Nintendo games or whatever games from consoles with an in game console that could be used to play against other players.. And if those are under license I guess make knock off versions or custom games. Just another mini game to play around with while bored or socializing. If you want to make the game different then why not do anything you could with it?

I'm getting that "Fuck this." Sensation.. I'm only gonna live for so many years... And Now the release has been extended to early to mid 2018? After all of this time they don't have a enough content to release something? These Early access and in development pre-order games just feel like shakedowns, scams. Take pledges yet never release anything.. It could go on forever... Just make enough content for a trailer here and there... Some screen shots, models and textures here and there but never actually complete anything... By the time this is released I may completely forget about it.. Let's face it, right now video games are circling the drain again therefore if someone doesn't do something huge to enhance gaming then mainstream gaming will go down.

You assume they have real lives to begin with... I mean come on... If we had lives to begin with we wouldn't be wasting our time playing video games.

I think I'm gonna be one of those Hollywood mercenaries.. Y'know... Have principles and morals which as we all know contradicts what it means to be... A mercenary.. So I guess you could refer to me as an eccentric mercenary. Whatever pays.. And my day job will be Local City police, because I like to arrest and harass people that stand up for their rights as well as others.. I also like to pocket and steal stuff then harass any citizen and or shop owners that have something to say.. I also like to steal guns and drugs from the evidence lock up and sell it to the local restaurant owners that us them as fronts for gambling, prostitution, drug trafficking and gun running. I'm gonna role-play real COP by day and real average citizen by night. We'll see what else develops.

But the game looks great, I haven't seen anything else worth playing.. And if it's not Massive multi play role play set in modern or cyberpunk word I don't care. This day in gaming all major games should be at least COOP if they're not MMO... And they should have as much interactivity as possible as well as open world, vehicles... AND SHOULD NOT be nothing but combat, because that shit gets old. Games are rated MA-17+ therefore they shouldn't be nothing but K-T content. YAY!! I have a firearm... Let's shoot stuff... Again and again and again and again...... and.... again and again.. It gets old. Especially when at least half of the potential players 18 and up have used an M16, Hand grenades, and M2 Machine gun, light machine guns, an Mp5 and various other small arms.. After doing it in the world a few times there is nothing grand an mystical about it.. Makes using guns in games as fun as using a car jack or a can opener within a game.. Has a purpose, a tool for the gameplay, but the game should not revolve around, especially now. I just hope they're setting internal deadlines and meeting those deadlines.. In other worlds.. Getting shit done. Because in the real world there is no well we didn't get it done.. If you want to earn an extension you get one if you earn it.. If not sorry bout that, too bad so sad, because when you're done it's done.. And that's how shit gets done..

So basically you're asking if we're going to be medical doctors?

ALRIGHT! You have a machine pistol, a bong, a drum AND PILLZ! A dumpster, a gumball machine... BUT! I do NOT! See a piano.. And that SHIT! .. is UN-acceptable! How am I gonna play Benny and the Jets without the hardware, the equipment, the TOOL for the JOB?! Anyway... What really attracted me to this game... the beater starter car.. I'm never gonna upgrade it.. Nothing sweeter than a beater. Need it to pick up the ladies so they and I could get sloppy in that jalopy. Eh, I'm not gonna bother constantly checking up on this.. might be like Duke Nukem Forever.. A never ending development cycle that only ended because Take 2 put an end to that and what did 3DRealms had to show for it after all of that development? barely anything.. That's what happens when someone doesn't set and reinforce deadlines with harsh penalties.. shit doesn't get done encouraging a never ending development cycle and potential.. well.. it's already been stated, do I needed to repeat it? Anyway... I know stuff like this take a lot of work as well time and design so I hope something launches. Wouldn't be cool, it would awesome.. NO, exceptional!