I know all about it because I been there I been a "tester" so what are you trying to tell me? I am telling you they don't play test and no where does it say play test. No where does it say testing to see if it will work. They just said that it should, there is a difference. (And when it is found out that it doesn't at launch then it gets taken off of steam.) @HAWK You think you know everything when you are talking to someone who has been there who has done that. You have a great day too. No need for you to have attitude.

@HAWK and like I said many games have launched with out any executables. I have also been in early games where they didn't have a server to play on during this window. Yet they got on steam how is this? An again nothing says play test there. You have to realize review doesn't mean play test. Have you ever been around during a game launch in similar affects? Since I have I would think my experience out plays your misunderstanding..

...please read my edit. An again like I said in the edit review does not = testing in this regard. (I also quoted it fully in post before that.) An no questions here I am just correcting you @HAWK

I just quoted that (fully mind you.) and no it isn't reviewing and testing are different things. When it comes to this. We are not talking about customer reviews, we are also not talking about reviewers who get a early copy of the game to review it. This type of review is checking files to see if there is anything that seems to brake the rules or seems to be in illegal in some way like stealing your information. (So kinda like a anti virus scan of said files.) So again not a play test.

@HAWK It doesn't say they will test anything. Closest they got is this I quote "Once you have your checklist complete, you'll need to hit the "Mark As Ready For Review" button in the top section of your product landing page. This will make your product visible to Valve for review and approval prior to release." Review doesn't mean play test. The only part that is even mentioned about test is a section where it says I quote "You will obviously need to test your application yourself before release and you may have other employees that you wish to grant access to help test." Here is another section about testing that kind of relates to this "launch" I quote "Running a closed beta is easy and free on Steam. It’s a great way to get feedback and test the user experience through Steam, and does not require you to launch the game into Early Access or provide permanent free access to your testers. These instructions will walk you through providing closed beta access to your community, and ending the beta when you’re ready. If you’re interested in releasing a beta version of your game that any customer can buy, check out Early Access. 1. First, upload a build of your game for your beta testers to play. If you haven't done this yet, check out the instructions here first and come back to this page later.2. Next, we strongly recommend setting up your Coming Soon page. This provides a reference opportunity to test your marketing presence against the experience players are having in game. It also provides the Steam Community Hub as an easy place for your community to discuss the game and provide feedback, and makes it easy for users to Wishlist your game. 3. Request keys from your “Beta Testing” release override package. Any customer who activates one of those keys can instantly download and play, so don’t hand them out until you’re ready. Take a minute to review the Steam Key documentation so you know what the rules are and how the key request process works.4. Keep track of the keys you hand out. By default, users who activate a key will own the game forever, but if you want to end beta access or revoke the game from beta testers, that’s fine too. When you’re ready to end beta access, revoke the keys using the key banning tool. You can indicate that you’re banning the keys because of the end of a beta, so users get a friendly message letting them know they’ve lost access. Note: If you’d like to provide a different version of the game to different audiences, that’s easy to do. For instance, you might have beta testers playing one branch, but provide Press/Influencer access to a separate branch. Learn more about enabling separate beta branches here."

@HAWK Why do you think steam will play/test it? When games have launched with missing executables? Or some games that launch in another unplayable state. These things wouldn't happen if the games were truly played before hand.

You may say that but I don't see your thread in account support. Also before there was no beach ball to contact so. yah...use to be someone else..(Under new management it seems.) Also not sure why you would request once then walk away. Would thought if you really want a refund you would keep pushing it until you got it.

Another way to get a refund is ask in account support and you will be requested to contact beach ball if you are out of the 180 days window. Proof of that in this thread with last replay.

Yes you can still get a refund. You just need to contact beach ball and of course make a thread in account support.

Well it is good they are looking into that. Since to me making your own anti-cheat for your game is a better idea then using one that is freely available. This comes down to the hackers/cheaters can use third party games to figure out how the anti-cheat software works and figure out ways to avoid detection. Also multi tier Anti-Cheat system can also help as well. As long as they do not read the same data the same way. If you were able to you could have a system that to get around one Anti-Cheat would flag the other one onto the person who is cheating/hacking.

There is hackers and cheaters in all games. (Only time I have seen this as untrue is if the game never had a hacker population and it was unpopular/lessly known game.) I would think wondering what they will do after and what kind of tools are they going to use to catch them would be more beneficial. Which to me is way more important then just no hackers and cheaters. (Since after all that is uncommon thing to happen.)

Skin texture to me looks a little off but that is fine. Since this is early days. Just updating lighting can make the skin look amazing. Other then that I am glad they updated us and are going to give us more information. It is nice to know where they are going when it comes to development.

Now about this topic as a whole I personally do not care if it is in or not. Since it is not something I care enough about. But I will say if they do add it in I hope they do a option like in Mortal online has where you can hide the nudity. So that you don't have to see it if you don't want to.

Yes it is...doesn't mean games are banned from being played that have nudity and pornographic material. Conan Exiles even has a dick slider with there nudity. In fact watch this steam on twitch with nudity in full display at the start https://www.twitch.tv/videos/243408015 So as you see nudity can be on twitch. Yet no bans Here is Mortal Online showing nudity too. 18 in you see a naked girl and before that you see a naked guy chopping wood. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/246679067 If you doubt second life has been streamed because you can do anything sex and otherwise here is a twitch video of it. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/245818895 Here is the stream section https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Second Life/videos/all So please tell me more how nudity in games is not allowed or that the game will be banned because there is nudity and or sex in it. Sure developers do not want to put it in and that is fine. Just don't say it is because the game will be banned from twitch is why they don't want it. Since that is not true. ::Edit in:: Now I will say it again none of this means twitch allows you to display pornographic material on your channel. (Clearly allows nudity if it is game related though since you can find it fairly easy in these games.) Some games that are only have sex have been banned from twitch it self. That wouldn't be a factor here though. An again the developers do not want it in and that is there choice. Just don't give me the myth of nudity in games is not allowed on twitch and any game displaying this gets the games banned from twitch.

I don't find that true when a game like second life is allowed on twitch. An that game has everything from nudity to sex and everything else. Also there is Mortal Online a game were you can run around fully naked. An that game is also allowed on twitch.

There is no system requirements because there is no game yet. They will get a better idea where they want it once the modules exist. Even then I bet it will change again. This has to do with development. Since the modules will not be as recourse heavy as the final game will be.

The questions are I was wondering if you all plan to play on the same server? Or do you plan to only play on a server that would equal a easy win for you? Do you plan to run in every server until you win in one of the servers? If you lose will you leave said server or do you plan to stay in said server? If you do decide to stay if you lose what job will you do until you win? These are just some questions I have been wondering I thought I would ask the political community here as a whole. (Instead of asking the same thing to every politician in every political thread.)

How about a Wrangler JK Rubicon Recon 2 door with the Freedom Top Body-Color 3-Piece Hard Top? https://www.jeep.com/mediaserver/iris?client=FCAUS&market=U&brand=J&vehicle=2018_JK&paint=PUA&fabric=X9&sa=JKJS72,2TZ,23Z,APA,CL,MX1,WEQ&pov=fronthero&width=1000&height=416&bkgnd=white&resp=jpg How about the gremlin car for another classic? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/e1/81/b3e18143725589691cacb83cf5169a89.jpg What about a limo? http://cdn.lalimos.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Los-Angeles-Limo-Service.jpg (This is just one type of limo just a idea of a kind. I really do not mind if you do another type of limo. If you do it at all.)

Oh do note something I just found out after more research about what I thought was the new DeLorean. Before you add http://www.newdelorean.com/this-is-not-the-2017-delorean/ The car illustrated above was drawn in 2011 by designer, digital artist and illustrator Maxime de Keiser as a modern interpretation of the De Tomaso Mangusta. Sometime after these photos were originally posted in 2011, someone added some DMC/DeLorean logos and claimed that it was the “new” DeLorean. The federal law that was passed in late 2015 that allows for low-volume production here in the USA states that the only cars allowed to be built under this legislation are those that resemble production vehicles manufactured at least 25 years ago. Therefore, the planned 2017 DeLorean will resemble the original 1981-1983 DeLorean models. I got kind of dissipated a bit once I found out.. Not that I do not like the style of the old DeLorean. It is just that new model concept from 2011 looked nice too. Oh well burned my own dreams.

I am not sure I have much to say here. Since everything I could say relates to things that will likely change. Like the clipping here there with some of the clothing items. As well as the lighting. These things would likely be changed as well. The lighting may look better if they changed the colouring of some of the textures but it is hard to say when that is likely a place holder as well. The poke threw some of the clothing could be related to animations. Since any animation change there can have a affect on the poke threw. The head poking threw at the start is sometimes related to bugs or animations.(Seen it happen before. Forgive me if I do not remember what the exact cause it is.) I personally didn't expect much honestly. With a indie game studio like this one with a budget of roughly 900k they are doing fairly well. Sure hard work and all but I wouldn't expect multi million dollar game out of there budget.

My list is still the same as last time I made vehicle suggestions.(More then once lol)Only going to list one I did before and also in another colour. Since you did say or more it is a bike. Which is a BMW R1200GS Adventure. If It has to be a car maybe something like the Opel Monza concept car. Then there is this neat car as well the new delorean.

Thanks for that information. Since I doubt everyone is even on that discord.(I know I am not.)

I could see it being longer then that. Which would take time for them to upload said video and edit it. 5 minutes isn't after all as much editing needed. Unless they prerecorded a longer video and they are just editing down to 5 minutes.

I could see this doable. I know a game that allowed that type of system. Apb had the ability for you to have custom licence plates. You could also just stick with the default ones. Really it just comes down to how much resource cost would it be I wonder.

One thing to note is when there was a kinda mini live debate stream of some of the candidates here. An there was not people attacking each other.(It wasn't to badly done.)