Capitalism DOES serve the interest of a small minority of individuals but screws over the majority. In Communism the majority make the rules in the work place and in government. Under capitalism the minority makes the rules in the work place and the government.

Corporatism is pure capitalism stop trying to say they are different because there not.

Well good thing there is still 3 business days left of the month, and it was stated "by the END of the MONTH" not sure what progress there is to seem? It's either posted or its not by the end of the month, there is no in between progress that you would see.

@killerkate888 Yeah, sorry. The general section of the community forums are pretty cancerous at the moment. You'll may find other, more enjoyable, content in the other sections.

This literally makes no sense, that's not how estimates work. An estimate is a rough calculation of an actual release, they can be as open or closed as the developer wants, but they can totally be held accountable for bad estimates. Maybe one or two bad estimates, that's fine, of course. Estimates ARE NOT made to be missed over and over (by a year+). This could be "we expect release to be in the second half of 2018", "in Q4 of 2018", or even something specific going down to a month. If you include estimates along with "release dates", I think there have been something along the lines of 5 or 6 missed deadlines (if you count the complete abandonment of the development tracker). And no, don't compare this to RDR2 or some shit, this is a TINY piece of a massive idea, after 4 years. The "b-b-but they're making the foundation" doesn't mean shit either until I see something that actually works (player VOIP, player housing, submitting paintings, submitting books ALL WORKING IN TANGENT, even then, I don't believe this game is build as an MMO at this point, especially with no SpatialOS integration, as planned later). Until then, the "foundation" is as good as non existent. I'll ask you this question then, since you seem to find your way to get out of any question. Why has the front page not been updated since July for dev blog posts? I love Identity, and cannot wait for the release by the way.

I have been following the content here on the forums and waiting like everyone else for the release of the Town Square. All I can say is I am not holding my breath.

No. You cannot just flip flop. You stated that the only reason for a December 2016 release date was because they had to put it to the maximum. You cannot just say whatever you feel like to please us, you cannot just change your answer when your first one is proven to be false. Really makes me doubt this answer, as if it was true you would have said it the first time instead of 'Oh they just picked the furthest possible date Kickstarter would allow.' Anytime someone tries to compare Identity to a AAA (notably GTA V) you, and many other criticise that thinking and say that Identity isn't a AAA game and shouldn't be compared to one, yet here you are comparing it to a AAA game. No, it doesn't take 2 years to make a triple A game, but you aren't a triple A game. Also, we aren't worried that you don't have the game done in 2 years, we are worried that it's been 4 years and we don't even have a playable version of the game. How long is it gonna be before we get even a beta? No, the tracker is not up to date. One bug for four months? No, it is not up to date. Also, they did not update it every day. The definition of update with regards to this situation is to 'give (someone) the latest information about something.' No new information = not latest information = not an update. No one is claiming there has been more than 2 release dates, but there has definitely been more than two delays and more than two release frames.

This release is the biggest joke in gaming history i think... Back in April/May people were taking the piss saying that it wont actually be released until the end of July... as an exaggerated dig at the process... We are approaching the end of October and it still isnt released. I'm literally only still here because it's hilarious and I cant wait to see the result when it is finally released in March next year. NO RULES CHESS AND BODGED KARAOKE FTW!!!! BTW, anyone who would like to come and see my apartment in March (which will probably be identical to yours apart from the floor and wallpaper is more than welcome to! Forgive me if I don't come to see yours... you can just tell me what colours you have)

It has for 4 months, much like why the front page doesn't have dev blog 20 or 21 on it, someone clearly got too lazy to update the website

Was wondering why the Tracker still shows 1 task remaining in programming ?

"When will closed beta begin? It's really too early to say with any certainty, although we feel that two years time will be quite enough to reach a feature complete state. We will most definitely not release an incomplete beta product; when Identity enters closed beta and your invitations are sent out, the game will be mostly complete with bug fixing and polishing remaining. Last updated: Mon, January 5 2015 8:08 PM UTC +00:00" Not sure if you wana qualify this one as a delay, but you're right, Kickstarter does only allow for 2 years, but this was said, and has nothing to do with Kickstarter's limitations. It does concern me a bit that "2 years until feature complete" has turned into almost 4 years for 1 slice of a massive concept, but we will see :).

You don't suppose Kickstarter has those guidelines for a very good reason, and that the fact that this project has crossed that line with nothing meaningful in the hands of backers is a bit worrying? That perhaps they're not in the right to want an indefinite, ever-increasing deadline by passing on knowingly wrong information to their followers? The Kickstarter is a pretty serious blindspot of this whole thing honestly, because it was designed specifically to a) get proper funding from investors and not random backers (not done), and b) to get a fully operational beta out by Q1 2017 (definitely not done). It's a bit disquieting to see people very quickly shrug off what is essentially a failed KS. And if one passes the 2 year deadline, suddenly they have nobody to be accountable to or even the vaguest sense when people can expect to see something of the final game. So while you're right it's not their 'fault' they couldn't increase the time limit, it also wasn't their right to put off releasing something forever in the first place.